| Poglej prejšnjo temo :: Poglej naslednjo temo |
| Avtor |
Sporočilo |
benma
Pridružen/-a: Ned Jan 2011 17:12
Prispevkov: 1631
Kraj: Kamnica
|
 Objavljeno: Čet Jan 02, 2020 14:26 Naslov sporočila: |
 |
|
Sprašujem zato, ker imam doma dve napravi z variabilnimi izhodi. Izhodno voltažo imata med 2V in 5,5V (nebalansirano/balansirano), kar je približno 1/5 izhodne voltaže, ki jo običajno imajo klasični predojačevalci. Zato obe moji multipraktik napravi dejansko nista zreli za neposredni priklop na končno stopnjo/aktivne zvočnike in me zanima kako je s tem pri najnovejših multipraktikih.
V mojem primeru se je ta funkcionalnost preampa pokazala bolj kot marketinška finta. |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
 |
akacjan
Pridružen/-a: Tor Maj 2010 19:39
Prispevkov: 213
Kraj: Ljubljana
|
| Objavljeno: Čet Jan 02, 2020 14:41 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
| ja, se strinjam s teboj, tudi gramofonski mm/mc se mi zdi v tem kontekstu nepotreben...ampak, kot sem napisal - v mojem sistemu je čisto zadovoljivo igral balansiran priklop na končno stopnjo in bi komot lahko živel s tako konfiguracijo... |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
pinus
Pridružen/-a: Pet Feb 2012 1:16
Prispevkov: 967
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Čet Jan 02, 2020 18:27 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
...Ko trio preraste v kvartet...
Lp |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
  Telefon: 030-353370 |
|
|
Tma
Pridružen/-a: Pet Nov 2010 3:06
Prispevkov: 635
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Čet Jan 02, 2020 19:08 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Uživaj z JBL-i kot jaz - bravo Danilo.
LP, Tomi |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
mise
Pridružen/-a: Sre Jul 2012 21:56
Prispevkov: 51
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Čet Jan 02, 2020 22:17 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Pinus!
Lepo je videti, da si povečal "zbirko" JBL! |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
markoni
Pridružen/-a: Pon Mar 2009 23:09
Prispevkov: 541
Kraj: Ljubljana
|
| Objavljeno: Pet Jan 03, 2020 20:35 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Tako jeeee !!!
_________________
Only trust your hart (ears) ! Elephant man ...... |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
siroliver
Pridružen/-a: Sob Nov 2009 12:34
Prispevkov: 1004
Kraj: Izola
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 10:53 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Pa mi je uspelo po tolkih letih skompletirat serijo Opera Callas -letnik 2007
SP Callas
SP Voce
Mini Callas
finish Durmast Oak
 |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
Tma
Pridružen/-a: Pet Nov 2010 3:06
Prispevkov: 635
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 12:08 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
| benma je napisal/a: | Sprašujem zato, ker imam doma dve napravi z variabilnimi izhodi. Izhodno voltažo imata med 2V in 5,5V (nebalansirano/balansirano), kar je približno 1/5 izhodne voltaže, ki jo običajno imajo klasični predojačevalci. Zato obe moji multipraktik napravi dejansko nista zreli za neposredni priklop na končno stopnjo/aktivne zvočnike in me zanima kako je s tem pri najnovejših multipraktikih.
V mojem primeru se je ta funkcionalnost preampa pokazala bolj kot marketinška finta. |
Iz njihovega pdf-a:
XLR output DEFAULT :
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -18dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 9.79V RMS or 13.84V Peak or 27.69 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is the typical professional recording setting well handled by professional and some hi-fi equipment typically powered by +/-15V power rails (or larger)
It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems with well designed high headroom preamps and amps.
_________________________________ Output TRIM:
Output TRIM affects both XLR and RCA outputs exactly proportionally
XLR:
Mytek DAC output can trimmed (within the menu) in 1dB steps btwn -14dB and - 18dB = +4dBu=1.228VRMS on XLR:
When set at -14dBFS trim the XLR out is:
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -14dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 6.14V RMS or 8.68V Peak or 17.37 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is the typical professional mastering setting well handled by professional and some hi-fi equipment typically powered by +/-15V power rails (or larger) The-14dB setting results in LOWER output from the DAC. It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems which have problem handling -18dB default.
-15 and -16dB trim settings are in between the two. _________________________________
XLR output GAIN PAD :
GAIN PAD is a set of 4 jumpers accessible after removing the top DAC cover. The DEFAULT is Jumpers OPENED. When jumpers SHORT the pairs of pins, additional IV resistors are inserted into DAC circuit and output GAIN is Lowered by 6dB (twice in voltage terms)
PAD affects both XLR and RCA outputs exactly proportionally
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -18dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 9.79V RMS or 13.84V Peak or 27.69 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is a non typical setting intended for hi-fi equipment typically which cannot handle large signals well (typically powered by less than +/-15V power rails) INSERTING THE GAIN PAD results in LOWER output from the DAC. It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems which have problem handling standard XLR levels (are distorting or are too loud).
LP, Tomi |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
simon740
Pridružen/-a: Sob Sep 2012 15:59
Prispevkov: 980
Kraj: MARIBOR
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 12:40 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
| siroliver je napisal/a: | Pa mi je uspelo po tolkih letih skompletirat serijo Opera Callas -letnik 2007
SP Callas
SP Voce
Mini Callas
finish Durmast Oak
|
Čestitke!
_________________
Sound quality has very little to do with file size
Some people may think that loud sound is = good sound, but the fact is that it is loud and compressed and all dynamics have been sucked out. |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
benma
Pridružen/-a: Ned Jan 2011 17:12
Prispevkov: 1631
Kraj: Kamnica
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 13:10 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
| Tma je napisal/a: | | benma je napisal/a: | Sprašujem zato, ker imam doma dve napravi z variabilnimi izhodi. Izhodno voltažo imata med 2V in 5,5V (nebalansirano/balansirano), kar je približno 1/5 izhodne voltaže, ki jo običajno imajo klasični predojačevalci. Zato obe moji multipraktik napravi dejansko nista zreli za neposredni priklop na končno stopnjo/aktivne zvočnike in me zanima kako je s tem pri najnovejših multipraktikih.
V mojem primeru se je ta funkcionalnost preampa pokazala bolj kot marketinška finta. |
Iz njihovega pdf-a:
XLR output DEFAULT :
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -18dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 9.79V RMS or 13.84V Peak or 27.69 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is the typical professional recording setting well handled by professional and some hi-fi equipment typically powered by +/-15V power rails (or larger)
It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems with well designed high headroom preamps and amps.
_________________________________ Output TRIM:
Output TRIM affects both XLR and RCA outputs exactly proportionally
XLR:
Mytek DAC output can trimmed (within the menu) in 1dB steps btwn -14dB and - 18dB = +4dBu=1.228VRMS on XLR:
When set at -14dBFS trim the XLR out is:
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -14dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 6.14V RMS or 8.68V Peak or 17.37 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is the typical professional mastering setting well handled by professional and some hi-fi equipment typically powered by +/-15V power rails (or larger) The-14dB setting results in LOWER output from the DAC. It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems which have problem handling -18dB default.
-15 and -16dB trim settings are in between the two. _________________________________
XLR output GAIN PAD :
GAIN PAD is a set of 4 jumpers accessible after removing the top DAC cover. The DEFAULT is Jumpers OPENED. When jumpers SHORT the pairs of pins, additional IV resistors are inserted into DAC circuit and output GAIN is Lowered by 6dB (twice in voltage terms)
PAD affects both XLR and RCA outputs exactly proportionally
Average level (0 VU) = +4dBu= 1.228 VRMS on XLR (between pin 2 and 3) Output trim (adjustable in menu) = -18dBFS
Max output (sinewave) 9.79V RMS or 13.84V Peak or 27.69 V Peak to peak (Voltage swing)
This is a non typical setting intended for hi-fi equipment typically which cannot handle large signals well (typically powered by less than +/-15V power rails) INSERTING THE GAIN PAD results in LOWER output from the DAC. It's recommended for Hi-Fi systems which have problem handling standard XLR levels (are distorting or are too loud).
LP, Tomi |
Sicer se ne spoznam na te izraze, ampak številke so videti kar spodobne. Kako zveni, če priključiš direktno na power amp (v primerjavi s klasičnim pre ampom)? |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
Tma
Pridružen/-a: Pet Nov 2010 3:06
Prispevkov: 635
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 14:13 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
V bistvu še ni bilo časa - zadnje 3 dni ni bil nič poslušan. Sem na drugi lokaciji kjer imam Cobalta z Graham Slee.
LP, Tomi |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
joztom
Pridružen/-a: Pon Jan 2013 11:07
Prispevkov: 1976
Kraj: Ljubljana
|
| Objavljeno: Sob Jan 04, 2020 20:24 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Kje so dobili te voltaže?
Reference studio level re 0.775 volt 0 dBu 0.7746 V
Commonly used Voltage and Audio Levels. A line input level electrical signal typically has a voltage ranging from 0,3 to 2 Volts, while a microphone level signal is more often in the range from 5 to 50 mV (millivolts) |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
mise
Pridružen/-a: Sre Jul 2012 21:56
Prispevkov: 51
Kraj: Nova Gorica
|
| Objavljeno: Ned Jan 05, 2020 00:40 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Lp
Ko se ojačevalcu (mono blokoma) Coincident 211PP Dragon mk2, pridruži še predojačevalec Coincident Statement je zadeva "popolna" 👍👏
  |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
markoni
Pridružen/-a: Pon Mar 2009 23:09
Prispevkov: 541
Kraj: Ljubljana
|
| Objavljeno: Ned Jan 05, 2020 00:47 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
Sevedaaa !!!
_________________
Only trust your hart (ears) ! Elephant man ...... |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
simon740
Pridružen/-a: Sob Sep 2012 15:59
Prispevkov: 980
Kraj: MARIBOR
|
| Objavljeno: Ned Jan 05, 2020 11:09 Naslov sporočila: |
|
|
| mise je napisal/a: | Lp
Ko se ojačevalcu (mono blokoma) Coincident 211PP Dragon mk2, pridruži še predojačevalec Coincident Statement je zadeva "popolna" 👍👏
|
Verjetno sploh ne rabiš greti hiše/stanovanja zaradi toplote, ki jo oddajajo te kište ha
_________________
Sound quality has very little to do with file size
Some people may think that loud sound is = good sound, but the fact is that it is loud and compressed and all dynamics have been sucked out. |
|
| Nazaj na vrh |
|
|
|
|
Ne, ne moreš dodajati novih tem v tem forumu
Ne, ne moreš odgovarjati na teme v tem forumu
Ne, ne moreš urejati svojih prispevkov v tem forumu
Ne, ne moreš brisati svojih prispevkov v tem forumu
Ne ne moreš glasovati v anketi v tem forumu
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
|
Pomoč pogostih vprašanj 
Išči 
Seznam članov 
Skupine uporabnikov
Registriraj se
Tvoj profil 
Prijava za pregled zasebnih sporočil 
Prijava 
